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**Vtach** · 02-05-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Light It Up

Id watch this fight, make it happen strikeforce!

Seconded

**Jalapeño Jalisco** · 02-05-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SHORT_BUS

What makes you say that? Did you watch Walker fight the other night?

Yea, and the fact that Walker would take it serious while Canseco is just looking for some more attention and money

**Kulus** · 02-05-2010, 01:30 PM

I dont think either of these men see MMA has anything other than an opportunity for exploitation

**SHORT_BUS** · 02-05-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by prod2821

Yea, and the fact that Walker would take it serious while Canseco is just looking for some more attention and money

Walker took the Nagy fight seriously and he looked like shit. I think Cansucko would flatten him in what would most likely look like a bar fight.

If this fight happens on CBS in April it will tell us a lot about how much control Showtime and CBS have over Strikeforce. It will also move the hands on the Strikeforce doomsday clock a little closer to midnight.

**SHORT_BUS** · 02-05-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kulus

I dont think either of these men see MMA has anything other than an opportunity for exploitation

This

**SHORT_BUS** · 02-05-2010, 08:08 PM

Jumpin Jesus on a pogo stick:

And from GracieFighter:

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graciefighter.com - "Our camp has been contacted by a representative of Jose Canseco in regards to his desire to fight former NFL player, Herschel Walker, in a future Strikeforce show. We have agreed to train Canseco should this matchup happen."

"After having produced 3 of the current Strikeforce Champions, we are confident we could make Canseco into a formidable opponent for a future Canseco vs Walker fight."

**SHORT_BUS** · 02-05-2010, 08:09 PM

Are CBS, Showtime and Scott Coker trying to set MMA back 10 years?

**SHORT_BUS** · 02-07-2010, 05:10 PM

SOURCE

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Cesar Gracie: I could prepare Jose Canseco for Herschel Walker in three months
By Steven Marrocco on Feb 06, 2010 at 2:10 pm PT

When former baseball star and "Bash Brother" Jose Canseco called out Herschel Walker on his official Twitter account recently, fans and media dismissed it as a publicity stunt.

But Canseco has at least one man in his corner should he decide to make good on his wish to fight Walker: Cesar Gracie.

Gracie spoke recently with Canseco's manager and said he is open to training the controversial slugger. Gracie explained his rationale behind taking the assignment to MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com).

"I thought about it," Gracie said. "It's a circus; it's a spectacle."

But Gracie, who helps train current Strikeforce champions Jake Shields and Nick Diaz, said that's not necessarily a bad thing.

"[Canseco's] not fighting Fedor (Emelianenko)," Gracie said. "I mean that's a circus. He'd be fighting another guy with the same amount of fights as him: one. So what's the difference? Nothing.

"My angle of it is teaching a guy who is not known for his skill level in MMA and turning him into someone who's good enough to compete with someone like Herschel. It's that kind of challenge."

Walker, a former Heisman trophy winner and NFL running back, drew a tremendous amount of press when he announced his intention to make his professional MMA debut at the age of 47. This past Saturday, he fulfilled his promise when he defeated Greg Nagy by TKO at "Strikeforce: Miami."

Walker donated his rumored six-figure purse to charity.

Walker trained for the fight at American Kickboxing Academy in San Jose, Calif., the home base of Strikeforce and a school where Gracie's fighters have often trained.

Gracie said the closest he'd come to training a figure like Canseco was for MTV's "True Life" program, where he helped a man with no prior experience fight and win in the WEC.

But Gracie, of course, is no stranger to working with controversial fighters. Fans have alternately praised and condemned the brash Diaz for his behavior outside the cage.

"I think [Canseco has] made mistakes in his life and everyone has," Gracie said. "I think he's hated for ratting out baseball with steroids. Really? That's kind of stupid.

"Certain people are going to be portrayed in certain ways. If you tell the truth, some people don't like the truth. Jose came out early and talked about steroids in baseball, and people weren't ready to hear that. Now you've got people like Mark McGwire all these other guys admitting to it and doing their song and dance, and it's okay.

"That's not my business. My business is the challenge of it. Can we get this guy ready?"

And if Canseco is serious, Gracie said, he could be ready in as little as three months. Nick Diaz and Jake Shields could even act as trainers.

"We think we can get him to beat the AKA product," Gracie said. "If it became obvious that he wasn't really into it and he was just looking for a paycheck, I'd have to tell him that I wouldn't waste my time. But if he came in and he was serious, we could make him a very tough opponent for Herschel Walker."

Gracie said he's currently "in talks" with Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker about booking the fight, but Coker has not decided whether he wants to do it.

But is it good for the sport to put the aging would-be fighters together in the Strikeforce cage?

"I don't think it's the correct question," Gracie said. "People are going to say it's a spectacle. And it is a spectacle; let's face it. Two men fighting in a cage is already a spectacle.

"I think people need to separate what's going on there. There are some people you put in there and see can they be a contender. Jose Canseco and Herschel Walker will never be contenders. Once you put it out there for what it is, it would be entertaining to see a football player fight a baseball player."