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Writer says Mayweather needs to back off Pacquiao testing demands

By Steve Cofield

Floyd Mayweather did it. He stepped up, fought a legitimate welterweight with plenty of fight left and destroyed him. Mayweather had the power to force Mosley, who was without a huge payday on the horizon, to take Olympic-style drug testing. Can he do the same to Manny Pacquiao? Should he do the same or just do what's best for boxing and get in the ring?

Bill Simonson from MLive says Mayweather needs to back down from his demands.

Will this be the fight after which people start to give some Leonard/Hearns type love to Mayweather? It will be if Mayweather stops fighting this drug test battle with Manny Pacquiao.

The more this continues, the more Mayweather looks afraid to fight him. If he wants to be the people’s champion, he has to get into that ring with Pacquiao. I think this is a trilogy of fights waiting to happen.

Simonson says it's time for Mayweather to do what's right for boxing:

Mayweather should not be able to dictate the rules of any fight. Some will argue Pacquiao should just take the test. Bad argument, as it allows Mayweather to have selective testing on fights depending on how tough or strong the opponent is. Mayweather needs to fight him now and stop looking like the chicken here. Beat him no matter what is or isn’t in his bloodstream.

It just makes Mayweather look even bigger in the eyes of sports fans. The Mosley fight was a huge step toward being a champion everyone will respect, and the Pacquiao win would put him over the top.

Mayweather handled himself with class immediately after the fight and during the press conference but that doesn't mean he has to back down from his loud mouth stance on the Pacquiao fight. Mosley took the test, now it's time for Pacquiao, and more importantly Top Rank Promotions, to make the fight anyway possible.
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/blog/box...aining-content

This argument is going in circles, one man comes off as afraid, the other man comes off as having something to hide.


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Mosley needed to be a fighter versus Mayweather

Posted May. 2, 2010 at 12:23am
By Doug Fischer

LAS VEGAS -- The biggest boxing event of the year turned into a rather uneventful, one-sided affair but don’t place all the blame on Floyd Mayweather, who dominated Shane Mosley to a 12-round unanimous decision on Saturday at the MGM Grand.

Well, you can blame Mayweather, who won by scores of 119-109 (twice) and 118-110, for being a master ring general who specializes in being elusive while landing a ridiculously high percentage of his counter punches.

He survived a scare in the second round and controlled Mosley for the rest of the fight.

However, much of the blame for the lack of sustained action in the bout must go to Mosley, who was as responsible for the constant clinching as Mayweather was and perhaps more responsible for the many lulls in the action.

Mosley’s chance to beat Mayweather, a 4-to-1 favorite, was to be the aggressor and to outwork the economical defensive specialist. Mosley (46-6, 39 knockouts) was not the aggressor. Mayweather (41-0, 25 KOs) was.

Mayweather, who threw more punches (477 to 452) and landed 44 percent of those shots (208 to Mosley’s 92), was also the busier of the two future hall of famers.

“I did what the fans came to see,” Mayweather said after the bout. “I gave them a toe-to-toe battle.”

Not really, but again, that wasn’t his fault. Mayweather was the boxer in Saturday’s matchup. He did what he was supposed to. Mosley didn’t.

Perhaps Mayweather didn’t let him. Maybe he got into Mosley’s head. Maybe he hit Mosley with something that robbed the perceived live underdog of his confidence.

If that’s the case -- and it probably is -- all credit must go to Mayweather.

But Mosley still owed it to himself and to the fans to try to do more than he did. He needed to be himself in the ring, and that’s not a boxer.

Mosley has underrated skills, which he showed by making Mayweather miss in the early going, but the Southern Californian is a fighter at heart.

It’s understandable that Mosley did not want to press the action from the start of the fight. Constant pressure, volume punching and raw power is not enough to topple a sharp-shooting boxer of Mayweather’s caliber.

“When you’re too aggressive with somebody like Floyd Mayweather he can make it work against you,” Mosley said during the post-fight press conference.

Mosley’s plan was to use skill and fury to overwhelm his elusive foe but the aggressive part of his game plan never materialized.

Mosley, who gained fame for his "power-boxing” style when he was an undefeated lightweight terror in the 1990s, tried being a pure boxer in the early rounds of the bout.

He bounced on his toes just outside of Mayweather’s reach. He slipped jabs and stepped back from straight rights. He blocked left hooks and he tried to counter punch. He had some success in the second round when a right hand to the temple momentarily rocked Mayweather, but that was it.

Mayweather immediately answered Mosley’s challenge by upping his punch output and landing hard, effective punches of his own in the very next round.

Mosley’s answer was to continuing to box against the most talented boxer in the sport. He was out-boxed and out-punched for his misguided intentions.

“I caught him (in the second round) because I wasn’t just running in and throwing punches in the wind,” Mosley said. “But he made adjustments and I didn’t make adjustments.”

That’s the story of the fight.

At some point Saturday night, probably during the fifth or sixth round, “Shane the fighter” needed to come out to play because “Shane the boxer” wasn’t getting it done.

He was waiting for openings instead of trying to make them.

By the seventh and eighth rounds of the fight, Mayweather was backing up an increasingly frustrated and insecure-looking Mosley with head-snapping right hands. Mosley tried to pursue Mayweather in the final minutes of both rounds but he didn’t throw enough punches and he couldn’t land the ones he did.

By the late rounds of the bout, Mosley appeared to be in survival mode. The few punches he threw with any effort were triggered by instinct and they lacked technique and leverage.

What could have been a competitive or at least interesting fight gradually turned into another Mayweather clinic.

By the championship rounds of the bout, Mosley looked no different from the crude Carlos Baldomir or undersized Juan Manuel Marquez when they were being shut out by Mayweather.

Some ringsiders believed that Mosley might go the way of Ricky Hatton and get knocked out at some point during the final rounds of the bout but the veteran’s chin held out.

It was the only thing Mayweather did not strip Mosley of during one of the best performances of his career.

“I talked about the strategy at home with (trainer) Roger (Mayweather) and my father and they told me to box and then press the attack,” Mayweather said after the fight. “I think we could have pressed the attack earlier. If I did I could have got him out of there.”

A knockout of Mosley, who has never been stopped in an amateur or professional bout, would have been the only way the 33-year-old star could have topped his performance.

It was probably the only way he could have enticed the droves of fans who began to leave MGM’s Grand Garden Arena after the 11th round to stick around and watch the final minutes of the bout.

Again, the crowd’s boredom wasn’t Mayweather’s fault entirely. He took the fight to Mosley for most of the second half of the bout. Mosley didn’t reciprocate.

So what does Mosley, who is still a threat to most welterweight contenders, do?

“I don’t know yet,” he said. “I’m going to go home, watch the tape, see what I did wrong and take it slow from there.”

If he decides to retire, there’s a place waiting for him in the International Boxing Hall of Fame five years from now.

If Mosley decides to continue boxing there are a few marketable opponents who could rekindle the excitement he failed to spark versus Mayweather.

If Antonio Margarito, who Mosley stopped in nine rounds last January, wins his comeback fight on May 8 (and is able to get his license back in the U.S.) a rematch would be a natural attraction at L.A.‘s Staples Center, where the Mexican mauler made the veteran look as young as Mayweather made him appear old on Saturday.

Junior middleweight contender Alfredo Angulo would make a suitable substitute for Margarito if the disgraced fighter doesn’t get his boxing license reinstated. There’s also the winner of the up-coming Paul Williams-Kermit Cintron bout.

The aforementioned boxers are aggressive-minded punchers who lack Mayweather’s talent and technique. Mosley, even at his advanced age, should be able to compete with them. But for the sake of his health and the sport, he better remember to be himself in the ring.
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Way to go ESPN, letting everyone get their hopes up, dumbasses

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Pacquiao refutes ESPN story about being open to 14-day test

By Steve Cofield

ESPN.com ran with what seemed like good news with regards to the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao drug testing roadblock. It appears the Pacquiao quote in the story is phony.

During January negotiations, Mayweather wanted final testing to be done 14 days before the fight and Pacquiao wouldn't budge from his 24 day demand. Today, ESPN along with several other major website ran this quote supposedly from Pacquiao's website:

"I am willing to help the sport for the future of the sport. I do not want to see anyone cheat or cheat this sport. For that reason I am willing to consider taking blood [tests] as close as 14 days prior to the fight, as long as my opponent does the same, and it is not a lot of blood, just enough to test," Pacquiao is quoted as saying on his official website.

Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum is saying the quote is false and the fighter himself says he never said such a thing and never spoke with the website's writer, Timothy James.

BoxingScene.com spoke with Pacman's adviser Michael Koncz.

"He never spoke to any reporter and never heard of the guy," said Koncz. "He never talked to anybody about boxing and his main concern is campaigning and winning the election on May 10. (Floyd) Mayweather is not even in our minds or in our thoughts."

Pacquiao sounds no different than he did back in January when negotiation fell apart in the first place.

"We'll fight Mayweather or any other fighter anytime, any place under the rules and regulations of the Commission of the state where that fight takes place," said Koncz quoting Pacquiao.

The original website post at 2:30 a.m. on May 3 claimed Pacquiao gave the quotes for an official statement on his website.
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Ring Ratings Update: Who's No. 1, Pacquiao or Mayweather?
Posted May. 4, 2010 at 12:08am
By Michael Rosenthal
Buzz up!
The great debate just got hotter.

Manny Pacquiao used a series of spectacular victories to become most experts’ No. 1 fighter pound for pound when Floyd Mayweather Jr. took his 21-month hiatus from boxing. Then, when Mayweather returned and beat Juan Manuel Marquez, some suggested he should reclaim his throne.

Now, after Mayweather’s spectacular performance against Shane Mosley on Saturday, the top spot became what THE RING magazine Editor in Chief Nigel Collins called “a damn coin flip.”

Those who side with Pacquiao will say that he earned the top spot and shouldn’t be demoted until he slips up in some way. He beat the likes of Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez and Oscar De La Hoya before stopping Miguel Cotto and thrashing Joshua Clottey since Mayweather’s return.

Mayweather’s supporters will say that he should reclaim the top spot because of his unrivaled skill and dominating victories over Juan Manuel Marquez and Mosley, THE RING’s No. 3 fighter pound for pound going into the fight Saturday.

THE RING is sticking with Pacquiao as its No.1 fighter -- barely.

“The debate among members of THE RING’s Ratings Advisory Panel concerning who should be No. 1 pound for pound was fairly evenly divided between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather,” Collins said. “Manny and Floyd could very well be considered No. 1A and No. 1B. However, the tricky thing about the pound-for-pound ratings is that they are much more subjective than the divisional ratings, which are objective and based on results within the division.

“In the end, Pacquiao held onto the top spot due to his slightly better overall body of work and the difficulty involved in demoted a fighter coming off a virtual shutout performance such as Pacquiao’s victory over Joshua Clottey.”

Other respected boxing journalists don’t agree. One of them is Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports, our partner.

“I have great respect for what Pacquiao has accomplished in the last three years and there is a very legitimate argument that he has accomplished more in the ring than Mayweather,” Iole said. “That said, the fight with Mosley proved conclusively to me why Mayweather is the best. He fought offensively and stalked a man many thought he would run from. Yet, even though Floyd fought offensively, Mosley could still barely touch him. Mosley only landed 42 power shots in the entire fight, but what is incredible to me is that 13 of those were in the second round. Other than the second, Mosley landed fewer than three power shots a round. That's a testament to Floyd's skill as a fighter.”

The one thing most observers seem to agree on is that it’s more or less a toss-up.

“I can't remember a prolonged period of time in which there was more of a difference of opinion than right now,” Collins said. “… Hopefully one day it'll be settled in the ring.”

That might be the only way the debate ends.

RATINGS UPDATE

Pound for pound: Pacquiao (No. 1) and Mayweather (No. 2) retain their positions, while Mosley drops from No. 3 to No. 5. Mosley’s demotion also moves up Nonito Donaire (No. 5 last week) to No. 4. Bernard Hopkins (No. 6 last week) and Miguel Cotto (No. 7 last week) both depart to make room for more deserving fighters to advance or enter. Chad Dawson improves from No. 8 to No. 6, Paul Williams advances from No. 9 to No. 7. New middleweight world champion Serio Martinez debuts at No. 8, while new world flyweight champion Pongsaklek Wonjongkam enters at No. 9. Celestino Caballero remains at No. 10.
http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1895/ring...or_mayweather/

Personally I think they both should share the #1 spot, and if they don't fight each other next whoever has the better opponent gets the spot. Supposedly Arum is looking at either Margarito or a Cotto rematch for Pac which is not too pleasing to me especially if Cotto wins Yuri Foreman's WBA Jr. MW title and Pac fights him at a catchweight.


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In his weekly “Hook to the Liver” column published in El Universal, WBC President Jose Sulaiman commented on the decision of Floyd Mayweather and Shane Mosley to not fight for Mosley’s WBA title to avoid paying the sanctioning fees.

“…it was for me a humiliation and a threat to all world boxing institutions, which are who open the doors to all boxers from their very beginning, bringing them into the world ratings, to give boxers the opportunities to win world titles that lead them to fame and glory,” said Sulaiman. “They enjoy it for a while to fall next into the paws of the giant TV corporations and some promoters, once that boxers have become the top of the cream, taking away the merits and kicking in the behinds of the world sanctioning bodies, once they don’t need them any more, while those organizations continue working, through the good and the bad, to bring more boxers to the top, to see again the same lesson be repeated once and again.

“If this practice is not remedied, and as they can not produce the elite boxers that are born and formed by the modest boxing promoters and the local boxing commissions, boxing will be led to extinction as a great competitive sport in no more than 25 to 50 years.

“Oscar de la Hoya, the promoter, as well as the WBC’s superheroes, Floyd Mayweather and Shane Mosley, built their greatness on the opportunities that the WBC, and less frequently, other colleague organizations gave them, while HBO reached the top of boxing TV, showing the best fights in half a century of the WBC.

“These three great boxers continue being my personal heroes and absolutely the pride of the WBC, as well as keeping my respects for HBO. But how sad and unfair it is that they have forgotten the institutions that opened their doors and let them to conquer glory and the pride of the boxing fans of the world. As the fight Mayweather-Mosley is going to be exclusively for the money and only to see who is going to win over the other, with no other interest, and as a boxing fan, I have decided to stay home to watch it on the Mexican Televisa, which does recognize and respect always those which have been an important part to take boxers to the heights.”
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1.4 million ppv buys, lulz i was way off on the 2 mill, but that's still pretty good. Mayweather takes home $60 mill for his work

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Floyd-Shane 1.4 million confirmed

HBO Sports confirmed today that 1.4 million pay-per-view buys were generated from the May 1st welterweight fight between Floyd Mayweather and Sugar Shane Mosley at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. The fight was promoted by Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions. The 1.4 million buy total generated $78.3 million in pay-per-view revenue. The pay-per-view buy total includes 740,000 from cable homes and 660,000 from satellite and telco homes.
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Mayweather win draws 1.4 million buys

By Dan Rafael
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Floyd Mayweather Jr. calls himself "Money," and the welterweight star sure knows how to generate it.

Mayweather's lopsided decision victory against Shane Mosley (46-6, 39 KOs) on May 1 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas generated 1.4 million domestic pay-per-view buys and $78.3 million in television revenue, HBO announced on Tuesday.

That makes the fight the second-biggest non-heavyweight pay-per-view bout in history.

The buy total ties the fight with the 1999 welterweight unification showdown between Oscar De La Hoya and Felix Trinidad. However, Mayweather-Mosley generated more money because pay-per-view costs more. Trinidad-De La Hoya grossed $70.6 million.

Mayweather's 2007 decision win for the junior middleweight title against the now-retired De La Hoya, the reigning pay-per-view king in terms of total dollars, set the all-time pay-per-view record with 2.446 million buys and nearly $137 million in revenue.

The pay-per-view buy total for Mayweather-Mosley was derived from 740,000 buys from cable homes and 660,000 from satellite and broadband homes, HBO announced.

It is the third time in his last four bouts that Mayweather (41-0, 25 KOs) -- with a big benefit from HBO's "24/7" series that has followed the build-up to his recent fights -- has cracked 1 million buys as he continues to generate tremendous interest in his fights.

Besides the record-breaker with De La Hoya, Mayweather returned from a brief retirement to defeat Juan Manuel Marquez in September in a fight that sold 1.08 million units and generated $55.6 million.

In the history of pay-per-view, six non-heavyweight fights have surpassed 1 million buys. Mayweather has been involved in three of them. De La Hoya has also been in three of them. Manny Pacquiao, the presumptive next opponent for Mayweather in the fall, has been in two of them.
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